[PSU77]

I am glad to see that GM is moving away from their own designed entertainment/navigation system to a standard Android Automotive package for their EV's. I think that most car manufacturers have had problems with the design and up keep of their own proprietary systems. My question is whether there will be a monthly charge to use the system? Does it need access to the internet? If so, does it require the purchase of the car's hot spot system or will it use the data from our own cell phone?

 

[obermd]

Depends on how GM/Chevy implements this. The base Android Automotive package can talk to your home's Wi-Fi for updates so unless GM is really money grabbing via OnStar it should work without a connectivity package.

 

[EVolution]

My question is whether there will be a monthly charge to use the system? Does it need access to the internet? If so, does it require the purchase of the car's hot spot system or will it use the data from our own cell phone?

It will require internet for things like Supercruise which will require an OnStar subscription. GM has stated it plans to earn significant subscription revenue over the next decade. If you purchase the top trims you will likely have a trial basis for these subscriptions included. Since the vehicle will be capable of OTA, it should be able to connect directly to WIFI as well for those who do not wish to subscribe.

 

[obermd]

There goes SuperCruise as an option for me. It was at the bottom of my list anyway.

 

[hellsop]

There goes SuperCruise as an option for me. It was at the bottom of my list anyway.

ACC seems plenty good enough for me too.

 

[Nebula1701]

It will require internet for things like Supercruise which will require an OnStar subscription. GM has stated it plans to earn significant subscription revenue over the next decade. If you purchase the top trims you will likely have a trial basis for these subscriptions included. Since the vehicle will be capable of OTA, it should be able to connect directly to WIFI as well for those who do not wish to subscribe.

Yeah they are giving people 3 years of Super Cruise.

 

[PSU77]

Yeah they are giving people 3 years of Super Cruise.

But you have to pay $2,500 for the SuperCruise option.

 

[Mapleev]

So what does Android Automotive mean for Apple users?

 

[PSU77]

So what does Android Automotive mean for Apple users?

I've read that it will still interface with your IPhone. It will just be the operating system for the car just like the current manufacturer's operating system interfaces with Android and Iphones.

 

[EVolution]

So what does Android Automotive mean for Apple users?

Its just the OS, so not much. What you should be asking is will it have Apple carplay.

 

[Nebula1701]

Its just the OS, so not much. What you should be asking is will it have Apple carplay.

Yes it will have Apple Carplay.... Look at GM's current vehicles that have Android Automotive. They all support Wireless Apple Carplay and Wireless Android Auto.

GM is one of the few brands that actually has support for both.

 

[Nebula1701]

But you have to pay $2,500 for the SuperCruise option.

For the hardware yes... but you still need to maintain the maps and have people provide bug fixes... a Subscription for this is fine.

Or you could go Tesla and pay 5x to 6x as much.

 

[hellsop]

But you have to pay $2,500 for the SuperCruise option.

Think like a sales dude: most people are financing what's on the lot already. The SuperCruise becomes so buried in the cost it may as well be free and they're not even going to notice that they're paying for it until three years down the line when you're working second new dealership since making that sale.

 

[PSU77]

I read several expert reviews on the Lyriq looking for their opinion of the information system since it will be very similar to Equinox's Android Automotive version. All of the reviews were complimentary of the system with no negative comments about slowness or confusing controls.

 

[TKEV]

For the hardware yes... but you still need to maintain the maps and have people provide bug fixes... a Subscription for this is fine. Or you could go Tesla and pay 5x to 6x as much.

I agree that paying for updates to the maps and software justifies a subscription. The question is, will it be worth $25 a month/$250 a year. What bothers me is that Honda and many others offer lane centering without a subscription and the only way to get lane centering is to have an active super cruise subscription

 

[obermd]

I agree that paying for updates to the maps and software justifies a subscription. The question is, will it be worth $25 a month/$250 a year. What bothers me is that Honda and many others offer lane centering without a subscription and the only way to get lane centering is to have an active super cruise subscription

I don't know about other manufacture's lane centering, but Honda's puts you into a ping pong motion and makes it look like the driver is drunk. It works great on roads that are constantly curving in that it reduces the amount of force needed to steer through the curves, but on straight sections of road it's worthless.

 

[TKEV]

I don't know about other manufacture's lane centering, but Honda's puts you into a ping pong motion and makes it look like the driver is drunk. It works great on roads that are constantly curving in that it reduces the amount of force needed to steer through the curves, but on straight sections of road it's worthless.

That's the lane departure assist which is different from lane centering, not all models have the lane centering and you have to activate it separately (can't remember if cruise control also has to be active but I think it was). While visiting my partners mom we took a 300 mile day trip and she has the lane centering and it was very good.