Chevy Jumped the Gun (Big Time)

This is really not that long of a wait compared to other EVs. Think about the wait for the original Rivian reservation holders or Fisker Oceans that are just about to start production. There is the Hyundai Ioniq 6 that’s been in the news for a few months and also won’t have pricing or release dates until next year likely for US release. There’s also the Tesla Cybertruck where people have been waiting for years. Also people have people have waited several months to a year for a VW ID.4 and when they receive them are ecstatic about it. This is just the state of EVs right now (also due to supply chain disruptions). Not sure the point of coming on to an Equinox EV forum and vocalizing “Later” about waiting 6-8 months to place an order that might actually get filled (if RS trim) just months later. If you don’t plan on following along with the excitement of a much more affordable EV crossover or plan to buy one, then why have you joined? Also, it seems odd to join a forum that far in advance to tell people to “dream on.” I’m here to read about other people’s excitement about and am looking forward to sharing excitement when ordering does open up and seeing pics when people do finally get them. No need to rain on the parade.

Seems starting clock timeline when ordering an EV now is 18 months to more like 2 years plus. Oh that's just perfect for someone with time to burn. Possibly younger crowd with no children? But what if your wife just calls you and says your current 2010 to 2021 (what ever) was just totaled in an accident? You going to wait two years for a $40,000 plus Equinox? Let's say your 70 years old and want to go EV. You going to wait two years for GM to roll out $40,000 plus EV? Don't think so. Let's say transmission just went on your 2010 to 2021 vehicle with 160,000 miles on it. You going to pay for a new transmission or start looking for a new car? Let's say your car was just stolen and might not return in the shape you left it. Or maybe you live in Florida where cars float away every twelve months. You going to keep that returned stolen car or that flooded Florida four wheel rust bucket? Don't think so. And if looking for a new car you going to wait two plus years for an Equinox EV? Sometimes "Time" is not your friend. I could go on and on and on. Just saying this waiting game might be acceptable if EV manufacturer's say "one year wait to get you new EV". Bonus points if along all lines and trims. To pump an EV in November of 2023 that will likely show up in your drivway in 2025 is pathetic. And also premature HYPE. Good night.

EVnowornever said:

Seems starting clock timeline when ordering an EV now is 18 months to more like 2 years plus. Oh that's just perfect for someone with time to burn. Possibly younger crowd with no children? But what if your wife just calls you and says your current 2010 to 2021 (what ever) was just totaled in an accident? You going to wait two years for a $40,000 plus Equinox? Let's say your 70 years old and want to go EV. You going to wait two years for GM to roll out $40,000 plus EV? Don't think so. Let's say transmission just went on your 2010 to 2021 vehicle with 160,000 miles on it. You going to pay for a new transmission or start looking for a new car? Let's say your car was just stolen and might not return in the shape you left it. Or maybe you live in Florida where cars float away every twelve months. You going to keep that returned stolen car or that flooded Florida four wheel rust bucket? Don't think so. And if looking for a new car you going to wait two plus years for an Equinox EV? Sometimes "Time" is not your friend. I could go on and on and on. Just saying this waiting game might be acceptable if EV manufacturer's say "one year wait to get you new EV". Bonus points if along all lines and trims. To pump an EV in November of 2023 that will likely show up in your drivway in 2025 is pathetic. And also premature HYPE. Good night.

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You are BOTH right. It's a bummer to wait so long, but it's also nice to know that if you DO wait, you'll get rewarded for it (cheap price+cheaper battery to repair). For me, I'm not buying ANY EV that doesn't have something similar to the Ultium platform. I keep my cars for a LONG time. I don't want to pay 15K if the battery died after 10 years. The Ultium is made out of 8-12 (depending on range) individual modules, so you replace only the specific module that contains the bad cell.

Look how long people (suckers) are waiting for the Cybertruck... They already put a deposit 3 years ago, and I bet the Silverado EV will be better, cheaper, and out on the market faster.

If my 2010 Santa Fe's transmission will die before the equinox is out, I'll just buy a cheap used beater to get by until then, or another ICE vehicle for the next 7-12 years. I'm not in a hurry... I won't settle for less than Ultium-equivalent or pay more than 37K (USD) for a mid-trim crossover EV. If I can't get that, I'm staying with ICE\Hybrid.

EVnowornever said:

But what if your wife just calls you and says your current 2010 to 2021 (what ever) was just totaled in an accident? You going to wait two years for a $40,000 plus Equinox? Let's say your 70 years old and want to go EV. You going to wait two years for GM to roll out $40,000 plus EV? Don't think so. Let's say transmission just went on your 2010 to 2021 vehicle with 160,000 miles on it. You going to pay for a new transmission or start looking for a new car? Let's say your car was just stolen and might not return in the shape you left it. Or maybe you live in Florida where cars float away every twelve months. You going to keep that returned stolen car or that flooded Florida four wheel rust bucket? Don't think so.

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But I Need A Car Right Now
Your scenarios are, "I need a car right now". Solution: look at cars that are available right now, whether new or used.

Stop All Announcements of Future Cars?
No need to bash GM for announcing its future production timeline, it's irrelevant to your premise of needing to purchase a car now. If someone simply must have a new car now, then what are they doing looking at a Chevy Equinox EV or any other car slated for late 2023 or later? The fact that you are posting here suggests you are just very disappointed you can't get an Equinox immediately. Understandable, many would like one sooner rather than later too. But if you need a replacement today, move on. The Equinox EV (and a whol bunch of other cars) is not for you.

Smart Marketing
GM was spot on letting the public know what it's doing and what it's plans are. Much better than treating us as mushrooms. It's also a smart marketing move to stop a potential customer from buying a competing product. I don't often put "smart" and GM "marketing" together, lol. Besides, it's a public company, Wall Street expects this information and nothing good comes from keep them in the dark.

So, the announcement is for those making future plans on a very big purchase. Knowing what GM's up to is helpful to me.

When GM announced the Ultium platform and later the Blazer EV and the Equinox EV I was indeed excited. The more I learn about the car the more interest I am. I actually appreciate GM letting me know, I'd actually like it if they told us even more! It enables me to make plans, to research and follow the car's development. I'm not that interested in the other cars anymore so a marketing win for GM.

Chevy Volt Relevance
I started looking at the Chevy Volt about 2 years before there was one, while it was in development. GM finally announced pricing and it would start deliveries in 4th quarter 2010 and they did. In February of 2011 I put my order in and it was ready in May. GM's track record is pretty good if not very good on meeting its production timelines. Of course, the unforeseen (think Covid) can happen.

My Volt is over 11 years old, it will need replacing in the next few years. What choices will I have in 2023, or 2024 or so? I had been noodling about maybe a VW, maybe a Hyundai, maybe a??

12 Months and Counting
We are about 12 months from some people taking delivery of their new Chevy Equinox EV RS. Other Trims will follow in 2024 which is what, 13 months away. It's not unreasonable for me to think that, like my Volt, I may be taking delivery in 2024.

So no, GM did not jump the gun.

Steverino said:

But I Need A Car Right Now
Your scenarios are, "I need a car right now". Solution: look at cars that are available right now, whether new or used.

Stop All Announcements of Future Cars?
No need to bash GM for announcing its future production timeline, it's irrelevant to your premise of needing to purchase a car now. If someone simply must have a new car now, then what are they doing looking at a Chevy Equinox EV or any other car slated for late 2023 or later? The fact that you are posting here suggests you are just very disappointed you can't get an Equinox immediately. Understandable, many would like one sooner rather than later too. But if you need a replacement today, move on. The Equinox EV (and a whol bunch of other cars) is not for you.

Smart Marketing
GM was spot on letting the public know what it's doing and what it's plans are. Much better than treating us as mushrooms. It's also a smart marketing move to stop a potential customer from buying a competing product. I don't often put "smart" and GM "marketing" together, lol. Besides, it's a public company, Wall Street expects this information and nothing good comes from keep them in the dark.

So, the announcement is for those making future plans on a very big purchase. Knowing what GM's up to is helpful to me.

When GM announced the Ultium platform and later the Blazer EV and the Equinox EV I was indeed excited. The more I learn about the car the more interest I am. I actually appreciate GM letting me know, I'd actually like it if they told us even more! It enables me to make plans, to research and follow the car's development. I'm not that interested in the other cars anymore so a marketing win for GM.

Chevy Volt Relevance
I started looking at the Chevy Volt about 2 years before there was one, while it was in development. GM finally announced pricing and it would start deliveries in 4th quarter 2010 and they did. In February of 2011 I put my order in and it was ready in May. GM's track record is pretty good if not very good on meeting its production timelines. Of course, the unforeseen (think Covid) can happen.

My Volt is over 11 years old, it will need replacing in the next few years. What choices will I have in 2023, or 2024 or so? I had been noodling about maybe a VW, maybe a Hyundai, maybe a??

12 Months and Counting
We are about 12 months from some people taking delivery of their new Chevy Equinox EV RS. Other Trims will follow in 2024 which is what, 13 months away. It's not unreasonable for me to think that, like my Volt, I may be taking delivery in 2024.

So no, GM did not jump the gun.

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Two things - What I'm saying is delivery of the Eqinox EV "if everything goes perfectly" is targeted for 2024. Since GM is pumping the base version let's be honest. It ain't coming until mid 2024 or later. Most likely later. Now if GM announces a chip shortage in 2023 or 2024, or a chain supply issue, or slower training for Mexican workers, etc., you can kiss your estimated Equinox EV delivery good bye in 2024 and say "hello" 2025. And I can also tell you today's base price quote of $30,000 for base model with most likely be $38,000 plus by late 2024/2025. Its the "price jack up" game all EV manufactures are playing to the Extreme. Classic line from Rivian CEO - "Yea I know you've waited a long time for your Rivian truck, but its coming along with a $10,000 increase in sticker price". GM will play that game on future EV Equinox buyers blaming inflation, the weather and Ukraine, blah, blah, blah.

Buyer beware. What you see waived in your face in year 2022 "cost wise for a Equinox EV" is going to change on the UP SIDE substantially come late 2024 and 2025.

I currently have a Fisker Ocean Sport on order ($37,500 base). I placed my reservation last Jan. and converted to a non refundable order ($250) prior to the new law being signed. What I liked about the Ocean was the exterior design, FWD, LFP batteries (250 mile range) and advanced safety features. Just this week the top of the line Ocean One has started rolling off the Magna assembly line in Austria and the new configuator with with pricing and more details on standard equipment on the trim levels became active. What has come to light recently and given me pause is that the Sport will be the only trim not equipped with a heat pump and currently not an option. The interior is a black cloth with a black faux leather option. I have never been a fan of black interiors (current BMW tan leather). Priced out with a few options at $44,000 and expected delivery is late fall '23 or early winter. Thus a month or so ago the Equinox caught my eye. I would pass on the RT and wait for the 2LT or 3LT spring '24. Daily driving range is right where the Ocean Sport is and the interior is much more to my liking. Standard safety features are about the same with a nudge to the Ocean. The advanced Ocean driving/safety package is $5000 (I passed). So as the reviewers get their hands on these two EVs I will be watching closely. But I am surprised how much I am liking what I am seeing from Chevy.