Chevy Ranks 23rd in Consumer Reports 2023 Automotive Brand Rankings

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Chevrolet had a rough outing in the Consumer Reports 2023 Automotive Brand Rankings, finishing 23rd overall.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/02/chevy-low-in-consumer-reports-2023-automotive-brand-rankings/

Chevy was ranked twenty-third overall in the Consumer Reports 2023 Automotive Brand Rankings, placing the mass-market brand in second out of all four of GM’s brands.

This ranking is one spot above Chevy‘s CR 2022 Automotive Brand Rankings score, where the Bow Tie brand figured near the bottom of the pack. Meanwhile, Buick, Cadillac and GMC were ranked twelfth, twenty-fourth and twenty-seventh overall, respectively. German luxury brand BMW was ranked first overall on this year’s list, while Land Rover rounded out the bottom of the standings at spot thirty-two.

Consumer Reports‘ automotive brand rankings are based on an overall score that it assigns. This score is based on the publication’s own road test scores for a brand’s various vehicles, along with predicted reliability and owner satisfaction based on responses from past owner surveys. A vehicle’s safety score from institutions like the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety was also taken into account when assigning brand scores, while a separate “Green” score was applied to brands based on the number of eco-friendly vehicles it offers.

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Steverino

· #2 · 4 mo ago

The experience I've had with the Volt and Bolt have been very good. I'm not sure how it could be improved unless GM started paying me to drive the cars, lol.

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Evan1

· #3 · 4 mo ago

All cars have problems. It depends on the types of complainers.

Steverino

· #4 · 4 mo ago

Evan1 said:
All cars have problems. It depends on the types of complainers.

Also, what the problems are. At 30k miles an engine oil hose on my Volt started to drip and was replaced under warranty. I didn't consider that a big deal.

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Mapleev

· #5 · 4 mo ago

It does not jive with JD Power’s 2023 rankings.

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Steverino

· #6 · 4 mo ago

What's the caret for Tesla signify?

Mapleev

· #7 · 4 mo ago

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Tesla officially included for the first time: Tesla is included in the industry VDS calculation this year for the first time, with a score of 242 PP100. However, because Tesla does not allow J.D. Power access to owner information in the states where that permission is required by law, Tesla vehicles remain ineligible for awards.

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hellsop

· #8 · 4 mo ago

One of the big differences here that I can think of is that JD Power surveys owners, regardless of whether or not they subscribe to Consumer Reports or not. CR only surveys CR subscribers.

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #9 · 4 mo ago

hellsop said:
One of the big differences here that I can think of is that JD Power surveys owners, regardless of whether or not they subscribe to Consumer Reports or not. CR only surveys CR subscribers.

Yes, but JD are also taking money from automotive advertisers, which kind of makes me doubt their objectivness in reporting. If they get $2M from GM, and only 100K\year from Honda, do you think that won't affect their rankings? Honda being rated lower than Kia\Hyundai is completely sus. Kia's\Hyundai's from 2013 onwards are RIDDLED with issues!

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obermd

· #10 · 4 mo ago

I use CR's vehicle recommendations. What I do is take the list and start at the bottom. That way I find the vehicles that are reliable.

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Evan1

· #11 · 4 mo ago

obermd said:
I use CR's vehicle recommendations. What I do is take the list and start at the bottom. That way I find vehicles that are reliable.

I go by word of mouth, not these paid publications.

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #12 · 4 mo ago

Evan1 said:
I go by word of mouth, not these paid publications.

At least CR are not paid by the manufacturers, only by the subscribers. So if anything, I'll take their word over JD.

But as a former tech with many tech friends, I know which cars to avoid. Even Hondas and Toyotas have bad years (Toyotas with oil burning, and Hondas with oil dilution). But the general rule of thumb is Toyota\Honda\Mazda\Subaru are extremely reliable. Then the domestics brands, then the Korean, and the worst are the European brands. Nissan is considered European+Japanese, so it's not as reliable as the other Japanese, but not as bad as the other Europeans.

The Koreans (Hyundai\Kia) were pretty good until 2013, before the Theta 2 engine debacle. Now they added a dct, so I expect them to be even worse.

But EVs are different... And I can't comment on those.

Evan1

· #13 · 3 mo ago

MaybeFutureBuyer said:
At least CR is not paid by the manufacturers, only by the subscribers. So if anything, I'll take their word over JD.

But as a former tech with many tech friends, I know which cars to avoid. Even Hondas and Toyotas have bad years (Toyotas with oil burning, and Hondas with oil dilution). But the general rule of thumb is Toyota\Honda\Mazda\Subaru are extremely reliable. Then the domestic brands, then the Korean, and the worst are the European brands. Nissan is considered European+Japanese, so it's not as reliable as the other Japanese, but not as bad as the other Europeans.

The Koreans (Hyundai\Kia) were pretty good until 2013, before the Theta 2 engine debacle. Now they added a date, so I expect them to be even worse.

But EVs are different... And I can't comment on those.

CR seems to have a love affair with Toyota, especially the very vanilla Camry. I had a Jeep Cherokee from a few years ago with absolutely no problems yet they knock it. These publications also tend to praise the Accord which had so many problems (window actuators, suspension, and transmission issues) when I owned it.

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #14 · 3 mo ago

Evan1 said:
CR seems to have a love affair with Toyota, especially the very vanilla Camry. I had a Jeep Cherokee from a few years ago with absolutely no problems yet they knock it. These publications also tend to praise the Accord which had so many problems (window actuators, suspension, and transmission issues) when I owned it.

Yes, but you are just one person. The fact Toyota sells so many cars, while not being any good at comfort\tech\handling\price pretty much says it all. You can also look at total recalls (and what the recalls are about). Lately (2013+), Kia\Hyundai are doing a horrible job. The Europeans are not reliable for the last 15 years, and the domestics are pretty much stable, some getting better, some getting worse (Ford is getting worse).

As a mechanic, who worked at Ford, Mazda, Subaru, and Peugeot\Citroen, I can vouch for CR's lists. Otherwise, we would all buy cheap used BMWs. CR are not taking any sponsorships from the industries they review.

Also, pretty much every car guy in YouTube will tell you the same thing.

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Evan1

· #15 · 3 mo ago

MaybeFutureBuyer said:
Yes, but you are just one person. The fact Toyota sells so many cars, while not being any good at comfort\tech\handling\price pretty much says it all. You can also look at total recalls (and what the recalls are about). Lately (2013+), Kia\Hyundai are doing a horrible job. The Europeans are not reliable for the last 15 years, and the domestics are pretty much stable, some getting better, some getting worse (Ford is getting worse).

As a mechanic, who worked at Ford, Mazda, Subaru, and Peugeot\Citroen, I can vouch for CR's lists. Otherwise, we would all buy cheap used BMWs. CR are not taking any sponsorships from the industries they review.

Also, pretty much every car guy in YouTube will tell you the same thing.

I was so looking forward to getting "my last ICE vehicle" when the larger Bronco 2-door came out. After hearing about stalling (engine and transmission) and roof issues I canceled my order.

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #16 · 3 mo ago

Evan1 said:
I was so looking forward to getting "my last ICE vehicle" when the larger Bronco 2-door came out. After hearing about stalling (engine and transmission) and roof issues I canceled my order.

Yes, they really screwed up with the bronco.

When it comes to cars....Affordable, reliable, enjoyable. Choose 2.

Personally. I think Mazdas are probably the only reliable car that also handles very well. Maybe Honda too. But both are pricier than domestic brands or lower tier Japanese like Nissan (not really Japanese) or Mitsubishi.

Evan1

· #17 · 3 mo ago

MaybeFutureBuyer said:
Yes, they really screwed up with the bronco.

When it comes to cars....Affordable, reliable, enjoyable. Choose 2.

Personally. I think Mazdas are probably the only reliable car that also handles very well. Maybe Honda too. But both are pricier than domestic brands or lower tier Japanese like Nissan (not really Japanese) or Mitsubishi.

My CX-5 is very reliable

MaybeFutureBuyer

· #18 · 3 mo ago (Edited)

Evan1 said:
My CX-5 is very reliable

Smart choice. These things can run 250K miles with no major issues. Other than struts (and other suspension parts), I never had to touch them even after 120K. But suspension parts are wear & tear components on any vehicle.

If I'm not getting the Equinox EV, I'm getting a Mitsubishi. The reliability and comfort is between a Mazda and a Nissan, but it's the only one in Canada that comes with a 10-year drivetrain warranty, and 5 years bumper2bumper. The cost is 35% less than a Mazda. So, by the time the warranty is over, I'll surely have plenty of affordable EVs to choose from. It will be great as an "interim" car... But I wouldn't recommend it for someone who wants to keep it for 15 years or over 100K miles. I drive 2500km (1700 miles) a year, so it will last me pretty much forever. The reason I want a cheap EV is BECAUSE I barely drive. I'm maintaining my ICE vehicle for nothing.

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Evan1

· #19 · 3 mo ago

MaybeFutureBuyer said:
Smart choice. These things can run 250K miles with no major issues. Other than struts (and other suspension parts), I never had to touch them even after 120K. But suspension parts are wear & tear components on any vehicle.

If I'm not getting the Equinox EV, I'm getting a Mitsubishi. The reliability and comfort is between a Mazda and a Nissan, but it's the only one in Canada that comes with a 10-year drivetrain warranty, and 5 years bumper2bumper. The cost is 35% less than a Mazda. So, by the time the warranty is over, I'll surely have plenty of affordable EVs to choose from. It will be great as an "interim" car... But I wouldn't recommend it for someone who wants to keep it for 15 years or over 100K miles. I drive 2500km (1700 miles) a year, so it will last me pretty much forever. The reason I want a cheap EV is BECAUSE I barely drive. I'm maintaining my ICE vehicle for nothing.

I have no major issues...just the silly nicks and chips I've done to the wheels and lower chin spoiler. Mitsu seems to be putting up a fight to survive which is good!

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