Equinox EV Competitor: Fisker PEAR? (Update 5-17-23)

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · 8 mo ago (Edited)

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Fisker is already ramping up production in Austria for their upcoming Ocean model. A US plant will be built with Magna Steyra in the near future too. More importantly, Fisker will offer a smaller second model, PEAR, with Foxxcon (they currently make some Apple products) in Ohio in 2024. This will be about the same time the Chevy Equinox will have all trims in production. What's also interesting is that Fisker's second model will have a similar base price of $30,000. Since the PEAR is made in the US it should also satisfy the new EV tax/rebate incentives.

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #21 · 6 mo ago

Evan1 said:
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Above, latest photo of the PEAR. Henrik Fisker will test one of the PEAR protypes over the weekend.

I'm REALLY not a GM fanboy (never owned a GM product)... But I doubt this will be at the same price bracket, I KNOW they have no dealerships (so repairability and parts availability will be a problem), and the worst... Non-repairable battery.

If any other manufacturer, with a dealership, comes up with a repairable battery system, I'll definitely consider it (depending on price, of course)

Steverino

· #22 · 6 mo ago

The challenge for me is new company, no track record, no idea on service quality, no idea on long term reliability, etc.

A new car is too big of an investment for me to risk on a newcomer. The Pear may turn out to be a great car with no long term service or reliability problems. Or not.

I feel more confident with the Chevy Equinox EV in those regards. Especially given my Volt and Bolt experience (good and bad).

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #23 · 6 mo ago

Fiskerati which is a blog dedicated to all Fisker models mentioned in an interview with Henrik Fisker that a dedicated team of technicians will be able to repair it. What I like about them is that they teamed up with Austria's Magna Steyr who had a very long history as a subcontract builder of cars. Despite being a brand-new car company there should be few bottlenecks and quality issues. Their batteries are backed by a 10-year warranty.

This car is a backup if the EQ's plans fail.

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #24 · 6 mo ago

Evan1 said:
Fiskerati which is a blog dedicated to all Fisker models mentioned in an interview with Henrik Fisker that a dedicated team of technicians will be able to repair it. What I like about them is that they teamed up with Austria's Magna Steyr who had a very long history as a subcontract builder of cars. Despite being a brand-new car company there should be few bottlenecks and quality issues. Their batteries are backed by a 10-year warranty.

This car is a backup if the EQ's plans fail.

Nahhh... I don't want a car that will end up in a scrapyard after 10 years or so, I want it to continue to service me or someone else. My plan B is an Outlander, unless (by some miracle) there's a different model with the same price tag and a repairable battery.

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #25 · 6 mo ago

MaybeFutureBuyer said:
Nahhh... I don't want a car that will end up in a scrapyard after 10 years or so, I want it to continue to serve me or someone else. My plan B is an Outlander, unless (by some miracle) there's a different model with the same price tag and a repairable battery.

Mitusbishi Outlander? That company is also a risky bet.

MaybeFutureBuyer

· #26 · 6 mo ago (Edited)

Evan1 said:
Mitusbishi Outlander? That company is also a risky bet.

Meh... 10 years drivetrain warranty, 5 years bumper to bumper, and everyone I know that had old ones never had a problem with them. For some reason, their CVTs don't fail like Nissan's. Cheap to maintain, inexpensive to buy, not bad on gas... Horribly underpowered (but I don't mind that too much).

I might even get a 2-4 years old used one, while I wait for my "plan C" EV.

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #27 · 6 mo ago

This is a recent patent leak of the Fisker PEAR. Exhibits 502, and 504 seem to show an object that comes out of the front fascia. Is it a removable battery?

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Steverino

· #28 · 6 mo ago

A Brunk?
Expandable frunk?

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MaybeFutureBuyer

· #29 · 6 mo ago

A built in trolly suitcase? (Like the umbrella in a Lincoln)

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Nebula1701

· #30 · 6 mo ago

it's just a drawer.

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #31 · 6 mo ago

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Steverino

· #32 · 6 mo ago

Evan1 said:
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So, yes, a pull out drawer. The Chevy Silverado EV Work Truck has a pullout tool chest capability in it's frunk, but you need to open the hood.

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #33 · 6 mo ago

Steverino said:
So, yes, a pull out drawer. The Chevy Silverado EV Work Truck has a pullout tool chest capability in it's frunk, but you need to open the hood.

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Clever idea when you don't have an ICE motor sitting up front. The back of the PEAR will also feature a glass sliding window that goes all the way down. I'm guessing below the floor. If it's not glass it will be some other material that does it.

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #34 · 6 mo ago

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obermd

· #35 · 6 mo ago

Fisker has failed twice already. I wouldn't even consider a Fisker given their track record.

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #36 · 6 mo ago

obermd said:
Fisker has failed twice already. I wouldn't even consider a Fisker given their track record.

To be fair an entire factory lot of Fisker Karmas was flooded which created an insurance nightmare that led to bankruptcy. It had nothing to do with management or the car itself.

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #37 · 3 mo ago (Edited)

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The rear section was finally revealed. The rear window (surrounded by the red LED brake light) along with the tailgate submerges into the lower portion of the car. I don't know the exact specifics but the idea seems practical for tight city parking making it ideal for loading and unloading scenarios.

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Also, notice the very unique A-pillar angle. This allows for a "Jet fighter pilot" shaped front windshield according to Hernik thus providing a cozy-fish bowl environment with great sight all around for all occupants.

UPDATED: now the front:

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Steverino

· #38 · 3 mo ago

Evan1 said:
the red LED break light drops into the trunk area along with the tailgate

You mean the lighting frames the rear window as seen in the image, not that the tailgate folds or drops inside the interior trunk area, Evan?

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #39 · 3 mo ago (Edited)

Steverino said:
You mean the lighting frames the rear window as seen in the image, not that the tailgate folds or drops inside the interior trunk area, Evan?

Henrik Fisker refers to it as the "Houdini Trunk" as it "disappears" into the lower portion of the car.
Take a look: Fisker PEAR Patent Reveals Design

Steverino

· #40 · 3 mo ago

So the rear window rolls down/retracts into the rear gate, which in turn rolls down/retracts into a slot behind the bumper. Not to be argumentative, but this seems to go against the claim that they are reducing parts to make the EV simpler, no? A rear hinged hatch seems pretty simple. It seems they are replacing the two hinges with two electric motors. I suspect the hinges would outlast the two motors. Would snow/freezing rain on the window prevent the hatch from being opened? I know it can glue my side windows.

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