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How Scout Motors plans to bring rugged, retro cred to the EV era
CEO Scott Keogh gives new details on the VW-backed startup
Tim Stevens •March 3, 2023

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“We’re operating out of everywhere,” Scott Keogh said with a laugh in his first interview as CEO of Scout Motors, the American EV upstart spun out of VW Group.
While most established automotive players call the shots from sprawling, corporate palaces, Scout bases much of its operations — at least for now — out of a WeWork near Washington, D.C.
Scout Motors’ base of operations will eventually “anchor” near the $2 billion factory in South Carolina that was announced Friday, but Keogh believes remote work will be key to Scout Motors’ success. The company already has critical employees working remotely around the United States and overseas.

“I believe firmly that era is over,” Keogh said of the classic days of centralized organizations. “I don’t think it exists anymore in the spirit of Americans, in the spirit of the company.”
Origins
Capturing the spirit of Americans is a big part of what Keogh hopes and plans to do with Scout Motors, an all-electric brand launched with a $100 million investment from Volkswagen that plans to start shipping its first vehicle, an off-road focused SUV priced around $40,000, by the end of 2026. Scout was the former consumer automotive brand of International Harvester, which ended production in 1980 in the wake of labor disputes and the 1979 energy crisis.

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A 1971 Scout 800B Comanche. Image Credits: Scout Motors

The original International Harvester Scout was a go-anywhere, do-anything utility vehicle, following in the footsteps of the original Jeep but with a more practical, enclosed body five years before the Ford Bronco bolted onto the scene. “In our minds, Scout sort of planted the seed, and if you look at almost every SUV, they’ve basically stolen that name and done some modification of it,” said Keogh, who then fired off familiar nameplates like Trailblazer, Pathfinder, Explorer, and Discovery.

Those models may be derivative, but they have one significant advantage over Scout: They’ve all been in production at some point within the past 40 years. Scout, meanwhile, is in the difficult position of trying to honor the past while making up for nearly half a century of lost time. If that weren’t enough, Scout has to distance itself from Volkswagen, too.

Keogh used the phrase “clean slate” four times during our interview, in reference to everything from software to dealership presence. With its Volkswagen ties, Scout Motors seemingly has a distinct advantage over other EV startups in that it could theoretically piggyback into the hundreds of U.S. VW dealers. However, Keogh says, there are advantages to following the trail blazed by Tesla in defining a way for manufacturers to sell cars directly to consumers.
“We have not decided, but we’re taking a long, hard look at it,” Keogh said about online direct sales. Historically, he said, manufacturers dominated the scene, but lately, the dealerships have been calling the shots, often at the expense of everyone else. “It’s always been an industry that played more towards legislation, industrialization, networkization, as opposed to what’s the best consumer experience,” he said. “This is the differentiator: Awesome retail experience focused on the customer, focused on technology.”
Launch target
Scout Motors will launch its first two EVs in quick succession starting in late 2026, Keogh confirmed.
First will be a small, off-road focused SUV that Keogh calls an RUV: a “rugged utility vehicle.” The second is a larger truck, which will “lean a little bit more on-road” in terms of its driving characteristics. Details like range and power aren’t yet set, but pricing for the RUV is meant to start in the $40,000 range, while the truck will be “a bit north of there.”

Neither, though, will be lacking in off-road capability, a brand new focus for the Volkswagen Group.
Both vehicles will be built on a bespoke, body-on-frame platform of the sort historically used by the most capable off-road machines. Manufacturing will take place in the United States, at the company’s newly announced factory in Columbia, South Carolina.

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Image Credits: Scout Motors

A battery partner has not been announced, but Keogh was adamant about structuring suppliers to take full advantage of the EV incentives offered by the Inflation Reduction Act, which has domestic production requirements.
Scout’s new EV platform will share some components with other Volkswagen Group cars, items like HVAC components, motors, and inverters. But that’s where the similarities end. Scout Motors is aiming to offer driving character and capability unlike anything else under VW Group, a behemoth company that includes a long string of EV platforms. VW Group created the MEB that lies beneath the Volkswagen ID.4, its successor MEB+, the J1 Performance platform under both the Porsche Taycan and Audi E-Tron GT, and the upcoming PPE platform for the upcoming Porsche Macan EV.

In addition to a bespoke platform, Scout’s cars will also take radically different approaches to software integration and the overall user experience. Some core aspects of the software will be provided by Cariad, the software arm of Volkswagen. Keogh said the base software architecture is in place. The user experience will be radically different, he added.
Keogh points to physical touchpoints as a main differentiator. VW’s ID.4 has been panned by many for its over-reliance on touch surfaces, for example.
“We really want to keep a lot of the mechanical nature,” Keogh said. “I think if you look at the American buyers, yes, they appreciate software, but they don’t want software to be all-dominating. I think you’ll see a lot more, let’s say old-school physicality, but in a good way.”
So no touchscreen-controlled vents à la the Tesla Model Y, then? “I can pretty much confirm yes,” Keogh told me.
Unveils ahead
Scout’s two models are set for unveiling in early 2024. The company has already had a limited screening at focus groups in California and Texas, where the prototype vehicles were stacked up against traditional offerings like Broncos and newer entries from Rivian. Keogh expected the concepts to do well among more EV-aware and friendly viewers in California, but even the feedback in Texas was strong. “We got some of the best results that we’ve ever had in clinics, period,” he said.

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A teaser image of two Scout Motors vehicles, an all-electric truck, and an SUV. Image Credits: Scout Motors

And what about the Scout loyalists, who’re still repping the brand at annual events like Harvester Homecoming? “In fairness, it runs the gamut,” Keogh said of the feedback they received, with some finding the style a bit too progressive. But, Keogh says, they need to move the brand forward. “We would now be on the Scout 8,” he said, if International Harvester had never stopped making the cars after the Scout II. “Certainly you would not want the Scout VIII to be like the Scout II.”

For Keogh, the key to attracting customers is in the name. “It’s a simple line that we’ve been using, but I think it works, this concept that the world does need more Scouts. Scouts can manifest themselves in things like hiking, climbing Everest, let’s say the more extreme side of scouts, or they can be dramatically less extreme as well, to tailgating to someone who knows the latest ideas.”
While Keogh is adamant that the new Scout will honor the past, it won’t be a brand hung up on legacy like some of its gas-burning competition: “I don’t want to make Scout a fossilized retro brand that says: ‘Dear America, it’s 1977. Again.'”

PS: VW will open up a battery Giga plant in Canada.
 

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People over on a certain news network are all up in arms about this new Scout.

The funniest comment (unintentional I'm sure), was to just leave the Scout as-is. My guess is they have no idea it's a dead brand. Other comments focused on fire, toxicity, dead children, $70k to $80k price, forced purchasing, yada yada.

Seems more about knee-jerk reactions to a headline than actually reading the article. Still, it shows there is a group that only see negatives with EV's, real or imagined. My guess is the anti-EV backlash will only get worse as more buy an EV.

I wonder if Scout will sell direct or go through dealers? Will the dealer cartel claim that Scout MUST sell through dealers because the VW parent company does? I see that Scout intends to more or less go it alone, using only some VW components. Can they claim to be an independent manufacturer like Rivian or Tesla, etc.?
 

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People over on a certain news network are all up in arms about this new Scout.

The funniest comment (unintentional I'm sure), was to just leave the Scout as-is. My guess is they have no idea it's a dead brand. Other comments focused on fire, toxicity, dead children, $70k to $80k price, forced purchasing, yada yada.

Seems more about knee-jerk reactions to a headline than actually reading the article. Still, it shows there is a group that only sees negatives with EVs, real or imagined. My guess is the anti-EV backlash will only get worse as more buy an EV.

I wonder if Scout will sell direct or go through dealers? Will the dealer cartel claim that Scout MUST sell through dealers because the VW parent company does? I see that Scout intends to more or less go it alone, using only some VW components. Can they claim to be an independent manufacturer like Rivian or Tesla, etc.?
The [Mentally] ill-informed will always remain [Mentally] ill-informed.
I believe it will be sold online as Scout is independent of VW despite being the owner of the American brand.
VW dealers were fuming over this action.
 

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VW dealers were fuming over this action.
Expect the anti-free market dealer cartel to demand their states to outlaw this new competitor, or to amend dealer franchise law so any company with dealers can not have a financial interest in a new company that does not sell through those dealers.

"The roughly 650 Volkswagen dealers in the U.S. are concerned the automaker plans to circumvent the traditional dealer model with the Scout. When announced, the carmaker said the Scout brand would be "a separate, independent company ... established in the U.S," and Keogh told AN "it won't be operated through the Volkswagen brand. In fact, it won't be operated through Volkswagen Group of America. It will be operated independently," with its own management team. The national dealer body and state dealer bodies have blown up Keogh's email inbox and likely his old fashioned mailbox with certified letters alternately asking and demanding to know what the distribution plan is. Beyond the sanctity of dealer franchise laws, their beef is that they endured the dieselgate beating, they've invested in the electrification overhaul needed to sell products like the ID.4 and gotten precious few ID.4s to sell, and they've been asking for products just like the Scout — a properly rugged pickup and SUV. So why wouldn't they be given the chance to sell Scouts?

Everything VW execs have said in the meantime leans in the way of dealer suspicions being correct, that VW's planning standalone Scout franchises or possibly direct sales, and current outlets might not get a look in. AN wrote that U.S. sales honcho Andrew Savvas informed dealers "they will have no claim on [Scout] products." The president of the North Carolina Automobile Dealers Association told Keogh, "The widespread belief is that the underlying reason VW is planning to create a parallel dealer network is VW's intention to reduce the VW dealer count."

I went into a VW dealership about 12 years ago and based on the expressions of employees standing around I felt like the new guy being walked through the prison's general population. It must have been an odd day, or I looked like someone they all did not like. It was weird and uncomfortable and it reverberates to this day.

 

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Expect the anti-free market dealer cartel to demand their states to outlaw this new competitor, or to amend dealer franchise law so any company with dealers can not have a financial interest in a new company that does not sell through those dealers.

"The roughly 650 Volkswagen dealers in the U.S. are concerned the automaker plans to circumvent the traditional dealer model with the Scout. When announced, the carmaker said the Scout brand would be "a separate, independent company ... established in the U.S," and Keogh told AN "it won't be operated through the Volkswagen brand. In fact, it won't be operated through Volkswagen Group of America. It will be operated independently," with its own management team. The national dealer body and state dealer bodies have blown up Keogh's email inbox and likely his old fashioned mailbox with certified letters alternately asking and demanding to know what the distribution plan is. Beyond the sanctity of dealer franchise laws, their beef is that they endured the dieselgate beating, they've invested in the electrification overhaul needed to sell products like the ID.4 and gotten precious few ID.4s to sell, and they've been asking for products just like the Scout — a properly rugged pickup and SUV. So why wouldn't they be given the chance to sell Scouts?

Everything VW execs have said in the meantime leans in the way of dealer suspicions being correct, that VW's planning standalone Scout franchises or possibly direct sales, and current outlets might not get a look in. AN wrote that U.S. sales honcho Andrew Savvas informed dealers "they will have no claim on [Scout] products." The president of the North Carolina Automobile Dealers Association told Keogh, "The widespread belief is that the underlying reason VW is planning to create a parallel dealer network is VW's intention to reduce the VW dealer count."

I went into a VW dealership about 12 years ago and based on the expressions of employees standing around I felt like the new guy being walked through the prison's general population. It must have been an odd day, or I looked like someone they all did not like. It was weird and uncomfortable and it reverberates to this day.

I used to go to G/C VW when it was around in New Hyde Park, New York. They closed due to their corrupt businese practices. It was one of the few dealerships nearby and one of the few VW dealerships in New York. As a fifteen year old I had loved their Fahrvergnugen ad campaign along with the newly released Passat. However, the same old saleman kept complaining to me when I was going to buy one. After I told him my age and that I didn't have a license he told me to not come back until I had the money and my driver's liscense. What a pric*.
 
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