What is your biggest Concern w/ Equinox EV?

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago (Edited)

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Andre YUL

· #2 · 1 mo ago (Edited)

Price is somewhat of a concern - if the Equinox trims I like are too expensive, I'm not in a hurry and will buy something else. Most likely reason I wouldn't buy it is fit.

My kids and I are tall and my son has not finished growing. We don't yet know how much headroom and legroom there is in the Equinox EV. My wife dislikes the visibility of her current car and we won't know if seating comfort and visibility are OK until a test drive.

The Equinox EV is, by Montreal standards, not really a "compact" SUV - it's less than 2 inches shorter than the ICE Blazer. A shorter, higher vehicle could have comparable interior space and be more practical in the city. If the new Volvo EX30 (sub-compact by US standards) being launched in June has enough legroom & headroom, we might prefer it.

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #3 · 1 mo ago (Edited)

Andre YUL said:
Price is somewhat of a concern - if the Equinox trims I like are too expensive, I'm not in a hurry and will buy something else. Most likely reason I wouldn't buy it is fit.

My kids and I are tall and my son has not finished growing. We don't yet know how much headroom and legroom there is in the Equinox EV. My wife dislikes the visibility of her current car and we won't know if seating comfort and visibility are OK until a test drive.

The Equinox EV is, by Montreal standards, not really a "compact" SUV - it's less than 2 inches shorter than the ICE Blazer. A shorter, higher vehicle could have comparable interior space and be more practical in the city. If the new Volvo EX30 (sub-compact by US standards) being launched in June has enough legroom & headroom, we might prefer it.

I would imagine the Volvo is on the (very) expensive side. I test-drove the C40 EV with an MSRP close to $70,000!!! Plus the rearview window was somewhat challenging to see out of when driving. I don't believe it has a video mirror as the EQ does on higher-trim models. Like Polestar 3, the EX30 will be built in China by Geely. I don't know where the batteries will be made but I don't think Americans will get the full tax credit if they buy one. They may have to lease it with the loophole attached giving them a $7,500 credit. More on June 7.

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Andre YUL

· #4 · 1 mo ago

In Canada, the Volvo C40 and XC40 Recharge base models are, before transport & prep, $60K (about $45K US). The EX30 is expected to be a bit less expensive. Being built in China has no impact on Canadian EV subsidies. In the US, @Evan1 is correct, they'll probably mostly be leased.

smallb1980

· #5 · 1 mo ago

Concern and only concern for me here in Canada is availability, and production. I don't want to wait more then a year. .

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hellsop

· #6 · 1 mo ago

I'm very much a price and availability creature. If I can't buy it, for whatever reason, it's basically imaginary.

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TKEV

· #7 · 1 mo ago

For me the biggest concern is storage space and headroom. I am really worried about the latter.

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Jim99

· #8 · 1 mo ago

My biggest concerns are around the price and availability of the Equinox. A higher than expected price for an LT2 model and limited production/availability will effectively make it difficult to purchase. If so, I’ll hang on to my Bolt a little longer as I love it. I’ll then look for another EV that checks off the affordability and availability boxes.

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Chip

· #9 · 1 mo ago

You should add size.

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Andre YUL

· #10 · 1 mo ago

hellsop said:
I'm very much a price and availability creature. If I can't buy it, for whatever reason, it's basically imaginary.

Indeed. There is a lot of excitement about vapourware EVs. Until they're more available, one could argue that the Hummer and Lyriq are also vapourware.

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #11 · 1 mo ago

Andre YUL said:
Indeed. There is a lot of excitement about vapourware EVs. Until they're more available, one could argue that the Hummer and Lyriq are also vapourware.

Why would you refer to Hummer and Lyriq as vapourware? Haven't they increased production?

Evan1

Discussion Starter · #12 · 1 mo ago

Andre YUL said:
Price is somewhat of a concern - if the Equinox trims I like are too expensive, I'm not in a hurry and will buy something else. Most likely reason I wouldn't buy it is fit.

My kids and I are tall and my son has not finished growing. We don't yet know how much headroom and legroom there is in the Equinox EV. My wife dislikes the visibility of her current car and we won't know if seating comfort and visibility are OK until a test drive.

The Equinox EV is, by Montreal standards, not really a "compact" SUV - it's less than 2 inches shorter than the ICE Blazer. A shorter, higher vehicle could have comparable interior space and be more practical in the city. If the new Volvo EX30 (sub-compact by US standards) being launched in June has enough legroom & headroom, we might prefer it.

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #13 · 1 mo ago

Chip said:
You should add size.

See the updated poll.

Andre YUL

· #14 · 1 mo ago

Evan1 said:
Why would you refer to Hummer and Lyriq as vapourware? Haven't they increased production?

I'm exaggerating. These models actually exist and aren't technically vapourware.

That said, for the Lyriq, they've indeed built thousands, but how many have actually been delivered? A few hundred? A local Cadillac dealer tells me he's has zero delivered and that an order today is not likely to be filled in less than 3 years! As for the Hummer, I understand they never intended to sell large numbers, but since its launch in late 2021, GM has built less than 1,000!

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Evan1

Discussion Starter · #15 · 30 d ago

Andre YUL said:
I'm exaggerating. These models actually exist and aren't technically vapourware.

That said, for the Lyriq, they've indeed built thousands, but how many have actually been delivered? A few hundred? A local Cadillac dealer tells me he's has zero delivered and that an order today is not likely to be filled in less than 3 years! As for the Hummer, I understand they never intended to sell large numbers, but since its launch in late 2021, GM has built less than 1,000!

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Now that the Bolt will be killed what will the Orin Township factory be used for? Maybe use some of the factory for another Lyriq line to speed orders up.

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Andre YUL

· #16 · 30 d ago (Edited)

Evan1 said:
Now that the Bolt will be killed what will the Orin Township factory be used for? Maybe use some of the factory for another Lyriq line to speed orders up.

Orion will be used for the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra EVs. GM Investing $6.6B In Orion EV Plant, Third US Battery Cell Factory

MaybeFutureBuyer

· #17 · 30 d ago

For me it's just price. I don't mind waiting another year or two. If I can get a 2LT AWD for 50K CAD (36K USD), then I'll take that (that means 44K CAD after taxes and Quebec rebate).

If that's not an option, I'll probably go with a CX-5\Outlander\RVR...etc. the CX-5 is AWD standard, power liftgate, and actually has Android Auto and Apple Carplay... So that's what I'm leaning towards as plan B. I don't "have to have" an EV, I'm no fanboy of anything, not brands, and not a propulsion system. I'm going with what will be the best deal for my driving habits. I keep my cars for a loooooong time (10+ years), so battery failure is a slight worry for me, but degradation isn't (I drive 3-4Kkm a year... 2-3K miles)

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HVACman

· #18 · 29 d ago

MaybeFutureBuyer said:
For me it's just price. I don't mind waiting another year or two. If I can get a 2LT AWD for 50K CAD (36K USD), then I'll take that (that means 44K CAD after taxes and Quebec rebate).

If that's not an option, I'll probably go with a CX-5\Outlander\RVR...etc. the CX-5 is AWD standard, power liftgate, and actually has Android Auto and Apple Carplay... So that's what I'm leaning towards as plan B. I don't "have to have" an EV, I'm no fanboy of anything, not brands, and not a propulsion system. I'm going with what will be the best deal for my driving habits. I keep my cars for a loooooong time (10+ years), so battery failure is a slight worry for me, but degradation isn't (I drive 3-4Kkm a year... 2-3K miles)

If you keep your vehicles for long times, and considering a new ICE vehicle, you should also consider the long term availability and cost of gasoline. Setting aside the climate aspects, Mother Earth is not making more fossil fuel and we continue to deplete the remaining reserves at a record pace. EVs and renewable electric energy sources may be a more reliable long-term option.

And 5-10 years from now, do you think CP/AA will still be a factor? Technology rapidly shift-shapes. The popularity of any hardware or software system follows a bell curve, with steep shoulders. If 80% of all new vehicles now include CP/AA in 2023, could CP/AA be right at their bell’s’ peak? Forward thinking OEMs likely see that curve and are planning accordingly.

hellsop

· #19 · 29 d ago

Andre YUL said:
A local Cadillac dealer tells me he's has zero delivered and that an order today is not likely to be filled in less than 3 years!

I'd believe the first part, but the second is a complete ass-pull fact. We're barely able to guess at production numbers for 3 months from now; three years isn't even educated guesses.

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Lance Boyle

· #20 · 29 d ago

HVACman said:
If you keep your vehicles for long times, and considering a new ICE vehicle, you should also consider the long term availability and cost of gasoline.

My new EUV Premier is great, but there are only so many available "memberships in the EV club" before our grid, charging stations and landfills can't handle it. Like the man said this week on CNN, "drill, baby, drill."

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