[PSU77]

If I get an EV, it has to have V2L which really narrows the field for me.

I saw the ID4 in person (but I didn't drive it) and I was impressed. However after reading the ID4 forums it appears Volkswagen still hasn't implemented V2L which was promised by the end of December. Plus I read many owner complaints about the slowness of the software and the illogical set up of the controls. They also said they haven't had a system update in 2 years. So this is off my list until updates are made.

I have test driven the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and I was impressed. However, the owner forums show lots of complaints about wait times (weeks/months) to get warranty service at the dealerships. Plus a consistent complaint about the 12v battery dying. Forum polls showed this happening to about 10% of owners. Several times Hyundai couldn't fix it and had to buy back the car. Plus dealers are still trying to price the car with ADM so this is off the list.

I haven't driven or seen the Kia EV6 but reviews have been good. A lot less complaints about the 12v battery dying. However I think it is overpriced by dealers with no IRS tax credit available. So this is possibility as a lightly used car if I could find a good price someday.

 

[EVolution]

The Equinox is rumoured to have V2L but in the highest trim only. I am not sure if it matters or not, but we still do not know the wattage which may or may not be a deciding factor as well. Most inverters you would plug into a 12V socket go up to around 300W which can run some smaller appliances and laptops and things but not much else. The I5 V2L is rated to 1800W in NA which can run much more. Depends on whether that matters to you. If you don't need the extra wattage ever, then its almost no different to just get a 12V inverter.

 

[PSU77]

The Equinox is rumoured to have V2L but in the highest trim only. I am not sure if it matters or not, but we still do not know the wattage which may or may not be a deciding factor as well. Most inverters you would plug into a 12V socket go up to around 300W which can run some smaller appliances and laptops and things but not much else. The I5 V2L is rated to 1800W in NA which can run much more. Depends on whether that matters to you. If you don't need the extra wattage ever, then its almost no different to just get a 12V inverter.

I want to be able to use it as an emergency generator for some appliances in the house. I've read somewhere that the 3RS trim in the Equinox will have the V2L with 3,000W power but even 1800W would be fine for me. I read that a 3,000W V2L vehicle could run a refrigerator for 3 weeks. So the Equinox is still my number one choice subject to actually seeing one and good reviews.

 

[hellsop]

Grid-tied battery systems don't HAVE TO have solar panels as well, and tend to cost about the ballpark of the price difference between (for example) a 2LT and a 3RS.

 

[PSU77]

Grid-tied battery systems don't HAVE TO have solar panels as well, and tend to cost about the ballpark of the price difference between (for example) a 2LT and a 3RS.

I've thought about that too (maybe a smaller version) but those systems don't have an 8 year warranty on their batteries like an EV, I've read reviews where they have died a year or two later plus those Chinese manufacturers might not be around to fix them later.

 

[MaybeFutureBuyer]

I wish we had the abundance of cheap Chinese options like Europe have (The Geometry-C, for example).

I'll consider buying anything under 48K CAD including AWD, with 350+ km range, crossover SUV. Now, you can tell ME which EVs are a possibility for me 😉

 

[smallb1980]

Yeah unfortunately none without tax credit/rebate. Closest that I'd consider is the ID 4 pro. Msrp 55k but they do drive nice , test drove one last weekend

 

[G-PA]

If I can’t get an Equinox then I think I would just keep my 2013 Volt with less than 50K miles. Honestly, I would buy another one if I could.

 

[Kabloona]

The Volt had amazing technology.....deployed to an obsolete platform that (almost) no Americans wanted to buy - the Compact Sedan......🙄

GM needed to get that drive train combo into trucks and SUVs.....🤨

Just my $0.02....

 

[hellsop]

GM needed to get that drive train combo into trucks and SUVs.....🤨

What GM learned from that seems to have been what convinced them that the plugin hybrid didn't have a long term future and they weren't going to commit more resources to it over spending the money on EVs. Whether that decision is "visionary" or "foolhardy" will take a decade to sort out. But no one could claim that they're not committed to it.

The closest I can think of to an SUV EREV is the Jeep 4XE. There's a nice minivan from Chrysler if one's need for a truck is "I gotta haul plywood and bagged mulch sometimes" instead of "I need to present as a tough man person dude".

 

[Mapleev]

I have mentioned my other vehicle is the Hyundai Ioniq 5, that I have a deposit on it and a reservation and I am in line to get a 2024 model. It has one many awards and has won another one: 4 Hyundai SUVs Just Won Car and Driver 2023 Editors' Choice Awards

The Equinox EV does not have to be as good as the Ioniq 5 for me to buy one, it is about being pretty good at a better price. Ideally $8000+ cheaper than the Ioniq 5.

 

[EVolution]

If I could grab an I5 limited in the US for the same price as in Canada, I would jump on that. We will see what another year of high interest rates and no tax credit brings to the US inventory of the I5.

 

[PSU77]

Well I saw a Kia EV6 in person and sat in the backseat. It was the highest trim that has the moonroof which reduces the headroom. I am short and my head almost hit the headliner. I don't think the lower trims without the moonroof would work for me. So this is off my list. So maybe the Hyundai Ioniq5 (slightly) used CPO (remaining warranty stays in effect) is an option if the Equinox doesn't work out.

 

[Kabloona]

No headroom in the back...who cares?...you'll be sitting in the driver's seat.....

🤣

 

[obermd]

Well I saw a Kia EV6 in person and sat in the backseat. It was the highest trim that has the moonroof which reduces the headroom. I am short and my head almost hit the headliner. I don't think the lower trims without the moonroof would work for me. So this is off my list. So maybe the Hyundai Ioniq5 (slightly) used CPO (remaining warranty stays in effect) is an option if the Equinox doesn't work out.

Watch out for Hyundai/Kia warranties. They're two (actually one) of the companies that tends to not allow the new car warranties to transfer to subsequent owners. Read it very closely before buying a used car from either of them.

 

[dayroge]

If I get an EV, it has to have V2L which really narrows the field for me.

I saw the ID4 in person (but I didn't drive it) and I was impressed. However after reading the ID4 forums it appears Volkswagen still hasn't implemented V2L which was promised by the end of December. Plus I read many owner complaints about the slowness of the software and the illogical set up of the controls. They also said they haven't had a system update in 2 years. So this is off my list until updates are made.

I have test driven the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and I was impressed. However, the owner forums show lots of complaints about wait times (weeks/months) to get warranty service at the dealerships. Plus a consistent complaint about the 12v battery dying. Forum polls showed this happening to about 10% of owners. Several times Hyundai couldn't fix it and had to buy back the car. Plus dealers are still trying to price the car with ADM so this is off the list.

I haven't driven or seen the Kia EV6 but reviews have been good. A lot less complaints about the 12v battery dying. However I think it is overpriced by dealers with no IRS tax credit available. So this is possibility as a lightly used car if I could find a good price someday.

The Fisker Ocean will have V2X capabilities.

 

[PSU77]

I just saw an ad for Chevy that said they have 1,700 EV service centers in the US out of 2,900 . There are 800 Hyundai dealerships in the US but I can't find how many are EV service centers. Assuming it is 50%, that would mean there are only 400 EV Hyundai service centers.

As an example there is only one EV Hyundai service center within 50 miles of my home in Jacksonville, FL , while there are 5 Chevy EV service centers within 20 miles of my home.

I think that explains why a lot of Hyundai EV owners are complaining of long wait times (days/weeks/months) to get their EV's fixed. Plus they must wait for parts from Korea. So that's is why I'm still learning towards the Chevy Equinox EV because I know GM can handle the servicing volume.