[threeputts]

I don’t know anyone who even uses their dual climate control feature. It always seemed like more of a placebo to me than real. So that’s probably why it’s only offered as a higher priced (lower volume) feature.

When my wife and I road trip her setting is always several degrees warmer than mine.

 

[BugsEUV]

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According to Chevrolet there are going to be 5 different trim levels available for the Equinox EV.

Customers can choose between the 1LT, 2LT, 2RS, 3LT, and 3RS.

Here is how the trim levels break down.

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2024 Equinox EV Content Highlights

Trim	Select Content Details
1LT	Manual-adjust front seats 11-inch-diagonal infotainment3 screen 11-inch-diagonal driver information center 19-inch machine-face aluminum wheels
2LT	8-way power-adjustable driver seat Heated front seats and heated steering wheel Available Black with Blue Accents interior or Sky Cool Gray interior Available 17.7-inch-diagonal infotainment3 screen 11-inch-diagonal driver information center 19-inch machine-face aluminum wheels Front LED light bar Roof rails Heated outside mirrors Available presence-based power liftgate Available Adaptive Cruise Control9 and HD Surround Vision9 Available Super Cruise4 driver assistance technology Available White roof with Blue exterior Available sunroof
2RS	8-way power-adjustable driver seat Heated front seats and heated steering flat-bottom wheel Available Black with Red Accents interior or Adrenaline Red interior Available 17.7-inch-diagonal infotainment3 screen 11-inch-diagonal driver information center 20-inch dark aluminum wheels Front LED light bar Roof rails Heated outside mirrors Available presence-based power liftgate Available Adaptive Cruise Control9 and HD Surround Vision9 Available Super Cruise4 driver assistance technology Available Black roof Available sunroof
3LT	8-way power-adjustable driver seat and 6-way power-adjustable front passenger seat Front heated/ventilated seats and rear outboard heated seats Available Black with Blue Accents interior or Sky Cool Gray interior Heated steering wheel Dual-zone climate control Heated wiper park 17.7-inch-diagonal infotainment3 screen 11-inch-diagonal driver information center Available head-up display and full-display camera mirror (with rear washer) Available Bose audio system Available sunroof 21-inch aluminum wheels Front LED light bar Roof rails Heated outside mirrors Standard presence-based power liftgate Standard Adaptive Cruise Control3 and HD Surround Vision3 Available Head-Up Display and Rear Camera Mirror3 Available Super Cruise4 driver assistance technology
3RS	8-way power-adjustable driver seat and 6-way power-adjustable front passenger seat Front heated/ventilated seats and rear outboard heated seats Available Black with Red Accents interior or Adrenaline Red interior Heated flat-bottom steering wheel Dual-zone climate control Heated wiper park 17.7-inch-diagonal infotainment3 screen 11-inch-diagonal driver information center Available Head-Up Display and Rear Camera Mirror9 (with rear washer) Available Bose audio system Available sunroof 21-inch aluminum wheels Front LED light bar Roof rails Heated outside mirrors Standard presence-based power liftgate Standard Adaptive Cruise Control9 and HD Surround Vision9 Available Super Cruise4 driver assistance technology Available 19.2 kW Level 2 (AC) charging module7

I am coming late to the party here, but I don’t think your information regarding the availability of Super Cruise is correct. If you go directly to the current Chevrolet website regarding the Equinox EV, they are only indicating that Super Cruise will be available on the 3LT and 3RS levels of trim:

If anyone wants to see more about how Super Cruise is offered on other GM products, it should be noted that this feature is only available as an option on the highest trim levels, be it an ICE Silverado or GMC Denali etc.

Super Cruise was just a Cadillac feature until 2 years ago. This is typical GM behavior: extracting the maximum amount possible for the features that are a must have.

 

[Nebula1701]

I am coming late to the party here, but I don’t think your information regarding the availability of Super Cruise is correct. If you go directly to the current Chevrolet website regarding the Equinox EV, they are only indicating that Super Cruise will be available on the 3LT and 3RS levels of trim:

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If anyone wants to see more about how Super Cruise is offered on other GM products, it should be noted that this feature is only available as an option on the highest trim levels, be it an ICE Silverado or GMC Denali etc.

Super Cruise was just a Cadillac feature until 2 years ago. This is typical GM behavior: extracting the maximum amount possible for the features that are a must have.

The information from original post you quoted is directly from chevy's press website. It has a more complete list of options than Chevy's main website, where they just have small hints of details.

We will get more detail once the Order Guide is available.

 

[BugsEUV]

The information from original post you quoted is directly from chevy's press website. It has a more complete list of options than Chevy's main website, where they just have small hints of details.

We will get more detail once the Order Guide is available.

Exactly. Just be aware of what I have said about SC as an option for every other vehicle GM offers. You will not find SC offered on anything but the very highest trim levels. This is why I am cautiously advising people here that an early press release is nothing to bank on. And so no one will be disappointed should they find out that they will have to fork out for a 3LT/RS if they absolutely require SC.

Here’s hoping that GM will relax their greediness by offering SC on lower trims without having to have a leather interior etc.

 

[Nebula1701]

Exactly. Just be aware of what I have said about SC as an option for every other vehicle GM offers. You will not find SC offered on anything but the very highest trim levels. This is why I am cautiously advising people here that an early press release is nothing to bank on. And so no one will be disappointed should they find out that they will have to fork out for a 3LT/RS if they absolutely require SC.

Here’s hoping that GM will relax their greediness by offering SC on lower trims without having to have a leather interior etc.

Super Cruise is offered on Lux2/Sport2 and Lux3/Sport3 for the Lyriq, leaving only the two base trims without (Tech, and Lux1/Sport1).

 

[BugsEUV]

Super Cruise is offered on Lux2/Sport2 and Lux3/Sport3 for the Lyriq, leaving only the two base trims without (Tech, and Lux1/Sport1).

I am aware of that. I have already said elsewhere if not here that Cadillac will offer new features first only on the top trim levels for a few years. After that it will be offered on lower Cadillac trim levels and venture out to other GM vehicles and for just the top trim levels. After several years of this feature being available on the non-Cadillac brands will said feature be available on lower trim levels.

Look, I realize that no one who has their eyes set on a 2LT/RS with SC wants to hear what I am saying about this. The only reason I am bringing this up is because of the feeling that the early press release that is being quoted here is wrong about this.

My only desire is that it might be better to be “pessimistic” about this situation, and then no one will be surprised/unhappy about having to pay for a 3LT/RS with upgrades that aren’t wanted (like leather seats and fancy wheels) because they really want the SC option. Or feel like they have to write Mary Barra to complain about the press release where the media just might have gotten the impression wrong.

I am extremely disappointed that GM will not be supporting CarPlay in the future. They might not be supporting Android Auto either in the long run. I am suspicious that connectivity will be a subscription in the future. It’s the trend in the auto industry these days. It could be worse. At least GM (so far) isn’t trying to charge a subscription to heated seats like BMW. When the feature is built into the car and doesn’t require cellular data to operate, it’s nothing but pure greed to expect a customer to pay for the use of a feature that is already installed in the car they purchased. I don’t know how other people view this but I will move to a different manufacturer who is not so greedy about the product they are selling.

 

[82]

I am not sure if I really need SC. Self-parking even scares me, lol.

 

[Steverino]

I am extremely disappointed that GM will not be supporting CarPlay in the future. They might not be supporting Android Auto either in the long run. I am suspicious that connectivity will be a subscription in the future.

Neither CarPlay nor Android Auto will be fully supported starting with the Blazer EV, Bugs. Apparently you still have limited connectivity for calls and text messages, but likely not more than that. I'm taking a wait and see approach. I want to test drive the car as well.

Here's what GM has said regarding some potential subscription areas:

Ultifi is designed to do two things for General Motors: increase customer loyalty and generate a new revenue stream. This will come from subscriptions to streaming content, concierge services, and selling permanent upgrades or renting temporary features over a vehicle's useful lifetime (much longer than a combustion vehicle's). Here are just a few envisioned for potential future rollout:

• Vehicle authorization using driver-facing camera and facial recognition software
• Automatic window/roof closing based on links to local weather forecasts
• Planetarium app using GPS location to indicate nearby star constellations on the infotainment screen(s)
• Gesundheit mode, which closes windows and activates air recirculation when pollen counts are high
• Monitoring of nearby traffic to learn of icy/slick spots, potholes, obstacles, etc.
• Enhanced powertrain and suspension settings for use during track days

 

[EvWantaBE]

Found in a Reddit comment, a dealer has posted prices:

• 1LT – 250 miles of range, FWD, 19" wheels, 11.5 kW onboard charge, 11-inch diagonal Driver Information Center and display screen, Standard Chevy Safety Assist. $30,000
• 2LT – 300 miles of range, FWD and optional eAWD, heated steering wheel, front seats, and mirrors, front LED light bar, advanced safety features. $34,000
• 3LT – 20" dark aero wheels, black-painted grille panel and lower fascia with sporty flow-through rocker molding, heated flat-bottom steering wheel. $37,000
• 2RS – Reverse automatic braking, head-up display, 21" aluminum wheels, heated and ventilated seats, Super Cruise driver assistance. $40,000
• 3RS – 19.2 kW Level 2 charging. $44,000

I'm somewhat skeptical because they don't look like official prices (they're all round thousands instead of XX,995 or whatever), so I would guess they came from some informal channel and may or may not turn out accurate. Edit: Also, their 3LT description seems off...aren't the flat-bottomed steering wheel and black grill RS features?

Also the 2RS does not have HUD, only 3LT an 3RS.

 

[Steverino]

Also the 2RS does not have HUD

I'm curious to see more on the HUD, and experience it.

 

[MaybeFutureBuyer]

Neither CarPlay nor Android Auto will be fully supported starting with the Blazer EV, Bugs. Apparently you still have limited connectivity for calls and text messages, but likely not more than that. I'm taking a wait and see approach. I want to test drive the car as well.

Here's what GM has said regarding some potential subscription areas:

Ultifi is designed to do two things for General Motors: increase customer loyalty and generate a new revenue stream. This will come from subscriptions to streaming content, concierge services, and selling permanent upgrades or renting temporary features over a vehicle's useful lifetime (much longer than a combustion vehicle's). Here are just a few envisioned for potential future rollout:

• Vehicle authorization using driver-facing camera and facial recognition software
• Automatic window/roof closing based on links to local weather forecasts
• Planetarium app using GPS location to indicate nearby star constellations on the infotainment screen(s)
• Gesundheit mode, which closes windows and activates air recirculation when pollen counts are high
• Monitoring of nearby traffic to learn of icy/slick spots, potholes, obstacles, etc.
• Enhanced powertrain and suspension settings for use during track days

So far, that list only demonstrate the greed part, not the "customer loyalty" part. If they had this system, plus Android Auto\Apple Carplay, I'd still have these new options to pay for if I'm interested in them. What they REALLY did here, is to force you to pay to get these options (even if you're not interested in them) just because you want to get the basic functionality you already have with AA\ACP.

It's like you go to a shop because you need pants, and they tell you that in order to get pants, you have to buy a whole suit, a tie, and shoes... And you can't really buy them, you have to pay monthly to lease them.

On the other hand, I had a look, and had a really hard time finding any 2023 vehicle with no subscriptions. So now, I'm 80% sure I'm just keeping my 2010 Santa Fe Limited. The engine doesn't burn even a drop of oil, the tranny doesn't skip a beat, and I have Android auto. No silly things like cylinder deactivation, start-stop, turbo, electronic parking brake, etc. The only problem is I go through suspension parts like a madman. Fortunately, I got the "no time limit, 180K" warranty. I think the fact that they use aftermarket parts is why I (they) need to replace all these parts every 4Kkm (already went through 7 control arms, 3 stabilizer links, 2 steering links, 4 struts\shocks, etc). The original ones lasted about 120Kkm.

This warranty already paid for itself 4X. So even when it's over, replacing all the parts (slowly, as they break) to original ones, plus paying for gas ($800\year for me), is still more cost effective for another 10 years.

But there's still a 20% chance I'll get the NOX. If the 2LT+AWD price is under 50K CAD (before taxes and rebates) I'll think about it. But that's only 37K USD these days, so I'm very doubtful this will happen.

 

[Steverino]

I'm 80% sure I'm just keeping my 2010 Santa Fe Limited.

I'm big on keeping cars running as long as possible, Maybe. The car I sold to buy the Volt was 21 years old, but was getting pretty expensive to maintain, parts were very hard to find, rust, etc., etc. At some point, you let go.

That car did not have Car Play, or any type of display screen, not heated/cooled seats, no HUD, no dual climate controls, no ADA systems (except cruise control), no TPMS, no nav. I wonder how I managed to survive, lol. It did have power windows though.

If my 2011 Volt had been based on the Ultium platform, I'd be keeping it (even though it doesn't have CarPlay/Android Auto either).

 

[82]

What they REALLY did here, is to force you to pay to get these options (even if you're not interested in them) just because you want to get the basic functionality you already have with AA\ACP.

But there's still a 20% chance I'll get the NOX. If the 2LT+AWD price is under 50K CAD (before taxes and rebates) I'll think about it. But that's only 37K USD these days, so I'm very doubtful this will happen.

There's always the least expensive Honda Prolongue as an alternative...ehhh?

 

[EVbug]

Please review GM's official Press Release on their Media Site!

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So, this wipes out my presumptuous idea that the new $35K entry price included the LR battery.
Back to my first impression - they have really jacked up the price! - Duh

 

[MaybeFutureBuyer]

So, this wipes out my presumptuous idea that the new $35K entry price included the LR battery.
Back to my first impression - they have really jacked up the price! - Duh

That's an old press release. Things changed since then. Only one battery and display for all trim levels.

 

[Nebula1701]

That's an old press release. Things changed since then. Only one battery and display for all trim levels.

Correct. New battery adds to that 5K increase.

 

[82]

Correct. New battery adds to that 5K increase.

If you're going with the 3RS with the 21'' wheels, how much range are you giving up compared to smaller wheels?

 

[hellsop]

If you're going with the 3RS with the 21'' wheels, how much range are you giving up compared to smaller wheels?

It's been a while since I've seen the quoted range comparisons, but IIRC the difference was about 7% less range for the bigger wheels. Not a lot but piling that on top of tires costing about 50% more for the bigger wheels too made the cost "bigger wheels" be multiple thousands of dollars over the life of the car instead of hundreds. All in the name of "looking good" and/or some marginal cornering performance improvements that I find hard to care about at all, and far less on an SUV than (for example) a hot hatchback.

 

[MaybeFutureBuyer]

It's been a while since I've seen the quoted range comparisons, but IIRC the difference was about 7% less range for the bigger wheels. Not a lot but piling that on top of tires costing about 50% more for the bigger wheels too made the cost "bigger wheels" be multiple thousands of dollars over the life of the car instead of hundreds. All in the name of "looking good" and/or some marginal cornering performance improvements that I find hard to care about at all, and far less on an SUV than (for example) a hot hatchback.

Don't forget the fact that if we're comparing same radial cross-section (same height wheel) with 2 different size rims, it will mean one will have a low profile sidewall, which will make the ride much less comfortable (less air to dampen the unsprung mass). This will be an even worse compromise over the price of tires and range loss. But it seems that large rims are the new fat lips... A fad that only seems to grow, and not going anywhere. Silly times we live in. Looks over performance\comfort.

The cornering ability of low profile tires is only noticeable if you're taking sharp corners at 60mph. I can see why a model S owner might want that, but a compact crossover? I don't see anyone taking an EQ EV to the track

 

[82]

large rims are the new fat lips...

Good one!